If you're a primary care physician looking for work-life balance, keep interviewing. - Physician Kaiser Permanente Employee Review

1.0
Nov 30, 2014
Recommend
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Pros

Salary and Benefits Physician colleagues are excellent Integrated healthcare system EHR and IT support On-Site CME with lunch Ability to call specialists for phone consultation easily Easy access to radiology with same-day availability Ability to work non-full time options e.g., 80% of FTE, etc.

Cons

Primary care physicians spend a lot of time on tasks below our licenses. You do many hours of extra patient emails, prescription renewals, and phone calls. The support staff is largely medical assistants. Kaiser doesn't like to invest a lot in mid-level providers like RNs who could make our job easier. Why? because the physicians are salaried--it's cheaper for MD's to do this in the evening and weekends on their own time than provide professional-level support. You have to close charts, answer calls and emails within one day. You also have to work evening clinics and weekend clinics. They are slow to replace MDs who leave and this adds to the burden of coverage. As a result the work-life balance is poor. You can feel like an overpaid data-entry clerk and customer service representative. You will be given talks about "providing excellent customer service." It's hard to feel like a physician. I have several ethical concerns regarding how the company inserts itself in the doctor-patient interaction. The patients rate you and these ratings are partly used to decide whether you can stay in the Medical Group. [My ratings are actually on par with my group so this isn't just sour grapes]. Making sure the patients are "satisfied" promotes overprescription of antibiotics, narcotics and sedatives. Doctors need to be able to say "no" and have difficult conversations that aren't "satisfying". And, because Kaiser is an insurance company, patients occasionally worry we are "trying to save money" on their care. An example, if you make more specialist referrals than your colleagues, you will get "dinged." Specialists more likely to give a quick phone opinion and are less inclined to "own" patients and follow them for their chronic problem than in private practice. There is a corporate culture of "Kaiser Kool-Aid" about how great the system is. Smart doctors with ideas for improvement and contrary opinions are ignored because they don't reflect the unrealistically rosy view of management about the Kaiser system and our work lives. There are a lot of physician jobs. If you don't like following commands from management about how and when you work and don't embrace corporate medicine, then you will find a better fit elsewhere.

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5.0
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Pros

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Cons

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4.0
Sep 9, 2015
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Pros

Kaiser is a great place to work and build a career over time. In my experience salaries are above market for most positions, and the benefits are so good that many people become "lifers". The health coverage is extremely generous, and time off starts off adequate and gets better over time (18 days when you start, moving up to 33 after 15+ years - this does not include sick time). Employees truly believe in the mission of KP (at least, I do) and it's clear that this is a place where employees' contributions are valued. Although my role is not part of any of the unions, the fact that our workforce is predominantly unionized also places a positive role in KP's reputation as a good place for workers (although having unionized staff also presents many challenges). Overall, I enjoy working at KP and would recommend it to others, but understand that you are entering a big bureaucracy. A friendly, mission-driven bureaucracy, but still.

Cons

Cons: having lots of "lifers" means that innovative ideas and workflows are not always adopted without a fight. People have their roles deeply embedded here, and any threat to the status quo is seen as negative, even though we need to make some pretty radical changes given the new health care environment post-ACA. There's a lot of "not my job" attitudes here. It's hard to navigate the layers of bureaucracy, both in terms of personnel/HR/benefits, and in getting work done (there are often 4-5 departments at the regional and national KP levels working on similar areas, and no guidance on who does what.) Be aware that KP is not immune to reorganizations and layoffs -- they do make a good attempt to ensure workers are hired elsewhere in the organization, but there are no guarantees, and there can be a lot of turnover in certain departments. Benefits are currently generous but are always subject to downgrades in the future, so just be aware of that. Some changes to the pension and retiree medical benefits are about to hit, and with them a wave of Baby Boomers will be taking retirement, which should hopefully open up many new management opportunities for Millennials. Oh, and the biggest con of all: we still - STILL - use Lotus Notes for email. Shocking, I know, but true.

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