Seniority Breeds Laziness and snotty employees. - Anonymous employee Kaiser Permanente Employee Review

2.0
May 24, 2015
Anonymous employee
Recommend
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Pros

Excellent Pay, Excellent Benefits. If you can put up with everything and just remember this career is for your kid and family, you will succeed here no matter what.

Cons

People that have been here for a long time always feel entitled... like if Kaiser owes them something. They take advantage of the new employees and they get lazier every year. Same people always show up late for work and they never get talked to. If you are new, expect to work all holidays because the people that have been there for a while will complain and throw you under the bus. If you want to be trained for a new skill... guess what? You'll be waiting forever because like I said, the employees that have been here want it all. They get to choose their vacation first. If you need to take vacation one day and a senior employee wants that day, even if you put your request first, the senior employee will get it. I hate that system, it creates inequality, breeds pure laziness and makes employees feel entitled. I"ve been an employee for almost 2 years and have worked every single Holiday all the while the same people get their little 3 day weekend.. this angers me.

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Pros

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Cons

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4.0
Sep 9, 2015
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Pros

Kaiser is a great place to work and build a career over time. In my experience salaries are above market for most positions, and the benefits are so good that many people become "lifers". The health coverage is extremely generous, and time off starts off adequate and gets better over time (18 days when you start, moving up to 33 after 15+ years - this does not include sick time). Employees truly believe in the mission of KP (at least, I do) and it's clear that this is a place where employees' contributions are valued. Although my role is not part of any of the unions, the fact that our workforce is predominantly unionized also places a positive role in KP's reputation as a good place for workers (although having unionized staff also presents many challenges). Overall, I enjoy working at KP and would recommend it to others, but understand that you are entering a big bureaucracy. A friendly, mission-driven bureaucracy, but still.

Cons

Cons: having lots of "lifers" means that innovative ideas and workflows are not always adopted without a fight. People have their roles deeply embedded here, and any threat to the status quo is seen as negative, even though we need to make some pretty radical changes given the new health care environment post-ACA. There's a lot of "not my job" attitudes here. It's hard to navigate the layers of bureaucracy, both in terms of personnel/HR/benefits, and in getting work done (there are often 4-5 departments at the regional and national KP levels working on similar areas, and no guidance on who does what.) Be aware that KP is not immune to reorganizations and layoffs -- they do make a good attempt to ensure workers are hired elsewhere in the organization, but there are no guarantees, and there can be a lot of turnover in certain departments. Benefits are currently generous but are always subject to downgrades in the future, so just be aware of that. Some changes to the pension and retiree medical benefits are about to hit, and with them a wave of Baby Boomers will be taking retirement, which should hopefully open up many new management opportunities for Millennials. Oh, and the biggest con of all: we still - STILL - use Lotus Notes for email. Shocking, I know, but true.

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