Politics first, bad technology second - Principal Software Engineer Zillow Employee Review

2.0
Sep 4, 2020
Recommend
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Pros

* Most of the people I work with on a day to day are great * The scope of responsibility has given me career growth opportunities * Products we work on are generally user centric & making real estate better for consumers

Cons

* Politics, politics everywhere! A day doesn't go by where some political statement is made by senior leadership or an event being held that's political in nature. Our all hands meetings are either entirely political, or mostly political. I'm burned out by it in my personal life, I don't need it in my professional life where it doesn't belong in the first place * The technology is insanely bad. One would think that a nationally recognized brand that is top of class would have good technology, or at least not bad technology. * Does not have good technical leadership, talent. There are certainly pockets of grade A engineers, but they seem few and far between. In addition, there doesn't ever seem to be technological advancements across the company. Status quo is perfectly acceptable at Zillow. It also seems that they push talented engineers out the door via their comp package, slow movement * 4 year signing bonus cliff is a killer of top talent & tribal knowledge. Review grants come nowhere near replacing signing bonus compensation, and most take a huge pay cut at the 4 year mark, or devalue their promotions/reviews of the past

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Zillow Response
5y
I appreciate the time you took to voice your concerns and glad to see you feel like Rich is doing a great job as CEO. I hope you'll reach out to me directly (davebei@zillowgroup.com) so I can better understand your thoughts on our tech organization. I would say that I don't share your comments on our technology or talent. We have incredible engineers at all levels in the organization and am incredibly proud of the products and technologies we have built and are using. There are some areas of our tech stack and processes that need ongoing investment as we look to upgrade longer running areas of our product and look at new models of building and shipping services. I am pleased with the progress we have made in this area over the last few years and hope to work with you and other Principal engineers who bring new ideas. It is definitely not a status quo environment, so please continue to share those ideas. We continue to be excited by the opportunity and work we are doing to transform real estate technology. In terms of compensation we provide annual renewal grants that take the place of sign-on and provide employees with the choice between RSUs and Stock Options for additional upside opportunities. We don’t cap salaries and offer renewal grants annually so employees continue to gain as the company grows like it has in 2020. There can be many interpretations of the word ‘politics’ and I don't want to assume to understand your usage of it. That said, if topics like equity, belonging, racism, and inclusion feel political at work then yes, we are being intentional in making those statements and we will continue to do so.

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Thank you for sharing such a detailed perspective. We understand that frequent changes to roles, account ownership and business priorities can have a real impact on relationship-building and the day-to-day experience in sales. We’re glad to hear compensation was a positive part of your time at Zillow, and we appreciate you being candid about where the model and structure felt frustrating. Feedback like yours helps us better understand how these changes are experienced across teams as the business evolves.
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